Street Artists Committee - September 9, 2015 - Minutes
STREET ARTISTS COMMITTEE
Wednesday, September 9, 2015
2:30 p.m.
25 Van Ness Avenue, Suite 70
San Francisco, CA 94102
Regular Meeting
Minutes
1. Roll Call
Commissioners Present:
Barbara Sklar, Chair
Greg Chew
Janine Shiota
Commissioners Absent:
Simon Frankel
Marcus Shelby
Staff present: Deputy Director Rebekah Krell, Street Artists Program Director Howard Lazar, Street Artists Program Assistant Alyssa Licouris
The meeting was called to order at 2:51 p.m.
Commissioner Sklar announced that items 4 and 5 will be combined.
Public Comment:
Bill Clark stated that he objected to combining the items because he would be given 3 minutes instead of 6 minutes and he wanted a separate 3 minutes to address Mr. Lazar’s proposal.
The Commissioners agreed that they will take items 4 and 5 together but will allow the public to speak for 3 minutes twice.
Michael Addario said that he doesn’t know if Manuel Loli is present but he thinks the items should be separated.
Ann Treboux (formerly Paula Datesh) said that general public comment should be held at the beginning of the meeting like the Arts Commission does. She also said that the timer clock is byzantine, bizarre, and does not meet minimum requirements set by the Board of Supervisors.
Eddy Steneck asked Commissioners to speak up since there are no microphones.
Commissioner Sklar confirmed there was a loud speaker and microphone.
2. Hearing and possible motion to approve the following recommendation from the Advisory Committee of Street Artists and Crafts Examiners: “Resolved that, pursuant to Administrative Code Section 67.6(a), the Advisory Committee of Street Artists and Crafts Examiners hereby confirms that, effective October 1, 2015, its regular screening meetings shall occur at 9:30 a.m. on the last Thursday of each month at 401 Van Ness Avenue, in Room 125.”
Action.
Public Comment:
Ann Treboux stated that the Admin Code that was quoted says that this can be resolved by resolution or motion. She said that if it was done by resolution, it would have freed up the Street Artists Committee calendar since there are only 4 meetings a year, and then they can get to things that are more important rather than putting 2 agenda items by motion that wind up in front of the full Commission.
Motion: Shiota, Chew
The motion was unanimously approved.
3. Hearing and possible motion to approve the following resolution: “Resolved that, pursuant to Administrative Code Section 67.6(a), the Street Artists Committee hereby confirms that, effective October 1, 2015, its regular meetings shall occur at 2:30 p.m. on the second Wednesday of odd-numbered months at 401 Van Ness Avenue, in Room 125.”
Action.
Public Comment:
Michael Addario said that originally meetings were every month. This, he said, was changed by Mr. Cancel in a seriatim meeting and it was never changed back. To go forward with the program, they need meetings at least every month. Before, he said, when the street artist movement first started, they had meetings every week. If the Arts Commission plans to go through with any recommendations, the Committee cannot meet 5 or 6 times a year, as this will not work. They should at a later date look at needing meetings for at least every month.
Ann Treboux said she wants the record to reflect that the timer clock is not in view to the public.
Commissioner Shiota said that she understands that the motion is technical about changing the venue for meetings and that the frequency of meetings is something to look into.
Motion: Chew, Shiota
The motion was unanimously approved.
4. Hearing and possible motion to approve request for eight (8) permanent street artist spaces located on Market Street, north side, at Drumm Street, adjacent to the cable car line, to be placed in the Downtown lottery (hearing continued from March 11, 2015 meeting).
Action.
5. Hearing and possible motion to approve staff recommendation to place the eight (8) permanent street artist spaces located on Market Street, north side, at Drumm Street, adjacent to the cable car, into a separate lottery called “Drumm Street Lottery”.
Action.
Program Director Lazar explained that this issue was brought up at the March Street Artists Program Committee meeting. He explained that the 8 Drumm Street spaces are located on Market Street at Drumm Street. He said that the artists using them now are artists who congregate at Justin Herman Plaza and end up selling in the Drumm Street spaces if there’s no room at the Plaza. He said that since Justin Herman Plaza artists were sporadically using them and no one from Downtown was signing up for them, he deleted the Drumm Street spaces from the Downtown sign-up sheet to make room for other spaces. He said Bill Clark approached him and said that there could be interest again and that, because of the loss of spaces in the Downtown area, the artists will need all the spaces available. At the March meeting, there was objection and John Tunui presented a petition for not putting them in the Downtown lottery. He explained that the ad hoc JHP lottery is at 6 a.m. and the Downtown lottery is 9 or 9:30 a.m. so the Downtown artists don’t want to go to a 6 a.m. lottery and the Justin Herman Plaza artists don’t want to wait until 9 a.m. He said that he himself spoke with the City Attorney who drafted a resolution for creating a new lottery called the “Drumm Street Lottery”. He said that the City Attorney expressed that, because the lottery rules and amendments had been approved by the Arts Commission for the last 3 decades, a solution for the Drumm Street spaces must also be brought before the Arts Commission for approval. Mr. Lazar recommended that the spaces not be placed in the Downtown lottery but to be placed in a separate created “Drumm Street Lottery”. He explained that the resolution for consideration provides for a lottery to occur if more than 8 artists show up or if 2 artists want the same space; the lottery, occuring at 8 a.m. would be run by whoever shows up.
Bill Clark presented his petition to the Commissioners stating that the artists want these spaces to stay in the Downtown lottery. He read from the Charter and explained that if the spaces are in the Downtown lottery, it would be compensation for lost spaces on Stockton Street; a loss of spaces requires other spaces and the artists believe they will become prime spaces. He proposed that at 8 a.m., the artists can occupy the Drumm Street spaces on a first come first serve basis and if no one signs in then they can keep the space all day long. Keeping them in Downtown Lottery, it will give an opportunity for the Wharf artists to get into the spaces but not prohibit Justin Herman Plaza artists from taking those spaces on a temporary or permanent basis. He asked the Commissioners not to take away more of the Christmas spaces; the artists had lost holiday spaces and don’t know what’s happening with the Winter Walk (Stockton Street).
Public Comment:
Tad Sky said that many artists agree that they want more Downtown spaces. He said that logistics would be hard for artists wanting the Drumm Street spaces because the Downtown lottery is far away; there could be issues or needs for a mini-lottery while the Justin Herman Plaza lottery is much closer. He asked what’s happening with the Winter Walk and asked for replacement spaces for Stockton Street. He said only 4 of the Drumm Street spaces are good and helpful when there is a loss of spaces in Justin Herman Plaza.
John Tunui said that he’s the former market manager of Justin Herman Plaza and that the artists are currently getting kicked out of the Plaza by the NFL celebration this week. He said that the artists have had nowhere else to go besides the Bart spaces (Drumm Street spaces). He said that they will need these spaces when the NFL comes back in January. He said that going to the Wharf two hours later for spaces that are never used is disingenuous. He said that the artists at the Plaza have been using the spaces since they’re so close, and it would be an inconvenience to the artists and would divide the program. He said that they should administratively change it. He said that they’ve been using the spaces in their lottery for a year and a half.
Michael Addario said that the spaces should never have been administratively changed, so they should be changed back the way they were. He described where the loss of spaces have occurred at the Wharf, on Stockton Street, and the holiday spaces during the Winter Walk. He said that the artists are owed money for being displaced because of the Winter Walk. He said for movie filming, artists get $200 per day per space. He said that there’s precedent for designated street artist spaces by the Board of Supervisors and that the spaces are their only asset.
Maria Sky said that the Drumm Street spaces are very valuable when there are events at Justin Herman Plaza. She said the artists use them at 6 a.m. and they are very important for them to have. She said that if the artists have to wait until 8 a.m., the parking garages are full, there’s a lot of traffic, and they can’t park late to unload.
Robert Clark explained that the Downtown lottery was originally located at the Wharf with the Wharf lottery so all of the artists could choose from all of the spaces at one location. Although it’s inconvenient to travel to the lottery, it’s convenient to choose between both Downtown and Wharf locations. He said that when Justin Herman Plaza artists are displaced, they can go to other places, and that it’s disingenuous to make it appear that the Drumm Street spaces are the only spaces they can go to. He said that Wharf and Downtown artists used the Drumm Street spaces since 1987. He said they couldn’t use them for the last year and a half because they were taken off the lottery sheet and they couldn’t sign in for them. He said if the lottery is at 8 a.m., it would deny Wharf and Downtown artists to look for a good spot in the lottery. He said he’s not trying to deny Justin Herman Plaza artists to get those spaces, since the rules allow them to set up until another artist comes with a lottery slip.
Ann Treboux said she was confused about items 4 and 5 being taken together. She asked if the resolution is proposing to have a separate lottery since, she said, the resolution doesn’t say where the spaces are included.
Commissioner Sklar answered that it would create a new lottery.
Ann Treboux said that there are two problems: that there is no downtown lottery except for some sporadic weekends in the summer, and the resolution says 8 spaces of 3 feet each, but that each stand is 8 feet wide. She said this is the third time this issue has been on the agenda and it’s more confusing.
Lynn Vandenberg stated that the Justin Herman Plaza artists voted about the lottery time and agreed to keep their lottery at 6 a.m.. She said it is open to any artist and that while a lot of artists travel from far distances, artists most committed would come to an early lottery.
Debra King said that the Cliff House lottery is a good example of the proposal; she explained that the Cliff House is an 8:30 a.m. lottery and people who don’t get a space have time to travel to another lottery. She said the Cliff House lottery happens at the Cliff House. She said it is less difficult to have a closer proximity for the Drumm Street spaces and that the Drumm Street spaces are lotterized near Drumm Street.
Bill Clark said the Street Artist Ordinance requires any new lottery to be held for 3 days a week, not a 1 day lottery or nebulous lottery. He said that, contrary to what was said, there is a Downtown lottery especially large during the holiday season. He said that not all street artists voted for a 6 a.m. lottery at the Plaza; instead it was voted on by a group and imposed on the rest of the artists. He said that after the 6 a.m. lottery, the artists can still occupy the Drumm Street spaces. He said that street artists at the Wharf and Downtown should have an opportunity to get those spaces in a secondary choice. He said that he’s not going to deny Justin Herman Plaza artists and that they can occupy on a first come first serve basis.
John Tunui said that he’s never seen the Wharf artists utilize the Drumm Street spaces. He said that if Wharf people want to use the spaces, they could come to the Justin Herman Plaza lottery or squat. He said that for people who come at 4 a.m. to park, go through the lottery and miss out at the Plaza, having to wait 2 or 3 hours to get a Drumm Street space would be inconvenient.
David Southern said he agreed with another member, that if artists want a space, they should come to the lottery. He said he’s never seen anyone drive around for a better space. If they want the Drumm Street space, they should come to the 6 a.m. lottery. He said people come from far away to get to the Plaza at 6 a.m.
Commissioner Sklar said there are two sides of the story and she understands there is a convenience issue for both sides. She said some people can’t make it at 6 a.m. and should be entitled to sign in. She said that the Commissioners should consider doing what’s convenient for the largest amount of people.
The Commissioners discussed the items. Program Director Lazar answered questions about the technicality of the lottery process, administrative authority of the Arts Commission, and possible lottery options that were available. He explained the City Attorney’s clarification and the process of the Arts Commission’s approving amendments to its lottery system.
Tad Sky said that there’s precedent for selling in those spaces. He said that when a trolley was put in on Market Street and the entire Plaza was redone, the artists had to work at the Drumm Street spaces. He said that most artists went back to the Plaza to sell but, on occasion, they would still use the Drumm Street spaces. He said that, as a volunteer, he assigned artists into those spaces. He said it is convenient to sign in for these spaces that are one block away versus two miles away.
Maria Sky said that the Plaza artists started signing people into those spaces because they didn’t see anyone there. She said that artists would come at 6 a.m. and, instead of having to go home, they would receive a chance to choose a space to work. She said that the artists would be signed in and then they knew at 6 a.m. where they were working.
Robert Clark read from a section of the Charter which, he maintained, says that you can’t change the lottery administratively and that there must be a vote of majority of the Arts Commission. He said that even if the City Attorney has no problem with having a one day lottery, the law says differently and he respectfully disagreed with the City Attorney. He said that many artists from the Plaza go to the Wharf lottery and partake in the 9 a.m. lottery. He said it’s a lie that these spaces haven’t been used since 1987. He said that Program Director Lazar said they were on the lottery sign up until a year and a half ago so the facts established they were being used. He said anyone that comes late to 6 a.m. is eliminated from the Justin Herman Plaza lottery.
Ann Treboux said that her name is Ann. She congratulated the Commissioner who visited the spaces which she said was highly commendable. She said that, before this, she had never seen a Commissioner on the Plaza and wanted to commend that person.
Michael Addario said that the Commissioners must go with the law since that’s the way program is set up. He said the street artists have no power with finances and staff. He said that a vote was taken among the Plaza artists as ad hoc and that they expanded to legal spaces which they should never have done. He said that with the evaluation done, the evaluator went to Justin Herman Plaza. He said this is a huge issue that the Plaza artists want to do whatever they want to do because they’re ad hoc and they’re going into legal spaces so there’s now confusion.
There was no motion for item #4.
Item #5 motion: Shiota, Chew.
The motion was unanimously approved.
6. Hearing and possible motion to deny issuance or renewal of certificate for street artist Manuel Loli, #6040, for selling items not of his own creation (commercially manufactured pipes)
Action.
Program Director Lazar explained the history of Mr. Manuel Loli’s violation case and presented sets of photos which showed Mr. Loli selling items not of his own creation. He said that this is not Mr. Loli’s first time before the Commissioners: eight years before, the Arts Commission revoked his certificate for selling a variety of items he had not made; the Board of Appeals, however, overruled the decision and ordered the Arts Commission to license him again. Mr Lazar recommended revocation of certificate again and said that Advisory Committee members were present as witnesses of Mr. Loli’s violations.
Advisory Committee member Renee de Cossio confirmed that she took the first set of photos of Mr. Loli presented by Mr. Lazar.
Advisory Committee member Jacqueline Thompson confirmed that she took the 2nd set of photos of Mr. Loli presented by Mr. Lazar, and she read from the report that she wrote of the monitoring duty. She said Mr. Loli disregards the rules of the program and she has witnessed on numerous occasions him selling items he doesn’t make or removing items when he sees the Advisory Committee approaching. She asked the Commissioners to revoke his license.
Advisory Committee member Susan Tibbon agreed with Jacqueline Thompson. She stated that his display disregards the spirit of the program. She explained there were numerous types of different pipes and many items are removed when he sees the Committee members. She stated that he has had repeated violations.
Program Director Lazar said that he himself took the remaining photos of Mr. Loli’s violations and that there was preponderous evidence in the form of photos and witness testimony to warrant a revocation.
Manuel Loli read a letter he wrote to the Commissioners.
Program Director Lazar said Mr. Loli had not requested a translator.
Manuel Loli said that he apologized for the problems and gave reasons for his behavior. He said that there is a deep economic crisis; also he has experienced vandalism daily and harassment from people with psychiatric problems and from the Westfield. He said he’s lost a lot of money and it takes a lot of money to create his art. He said he’s harassed by people with mental disorders who took his space, as with the case, he said, of Paula Datesh. He said he has broken the rules but he needs to sell something to live. He said that Westfield doesn’t want artists to sell in front of the mall. He said there’s no place to park and he’s gotten fined for parking. He requested that he have a salesperson to help open and close and park. He said all people deserve respect but Committee member Thompson is aggressive and that is why he doesn’t want to talk to her. He said he has a letter from his helper, Robert, who is a witness. He said he corrected his mistake and he’s spent a lot of money to produce all kinds of pipes and modified his booth to fit in the space. He said he did make a mistake last Christmas. He thanked the Commissioners and said he hopes they understand this is his only source of income. He said his other profession is as a journalist.
The Commissioners discussed the violation case.
Commissioner Chew ascertained what Mr. Loli has been approved to sell.
Commissioner Shiota commented that her mother was one of the original street artists and she believes that Mr. Loli does not have a place in this program as he has broken with the spirit of the program. Commissioner Chew agreed.
Commissioner Sklar said the Commissioners are committed to the standards and values of the program.
Motion to find Mr. Loli in violation: Shiota, Chew.
Public Comment:
An unidentified woman said that she knows other artists don’t sell the things they make. She said that people without a license take legal spaces and asked the Commissioners why they don’t do anything about these people who are aggressive and also take videos and photos. She said other people make problems. She said that Mr. Loli had a problem with the bank and the police were told he doesn’t have a license. She said the problem is for the bank because of a bad check and she asked who the rules are for.
A man who identified himself as Jerry said he understands why Mr. Loli is here with all of the evidence presented. He said if the Commissioners want to keep the integrity of the problem, he asked why they let a certain woman sell art made by another artist. He said that on the weekends she sells and is selling stolen products bearing someone else’s signature. He said he contacted the artist of the artwork. The female violator, he said, attacks people and calls the police 5-6 times a day and puts her illegal merchandise away when the police arrive. She complained about him and knows she can’t do anything. He said that if the Arts Commission wants to maintain the standards and integrity of the program, it has to investigate fully.
Advisory Comitttee member Tibbon stated that Mr. Loli does create beautiful glass blown items but the problem with his display is all of the other items he doesn’t make. As for the integrity of the program, it’s work made by the artists that the Arts Commission wants to see. She understands the difficulty of being on the street.
Ann Treboux said that in 2013 between Thanksgiving and Christmas, there were 10 times during that time period she would take a space on Market Street and Manuel Loli would be working. She asked him to move or show a lottery ticket knowing he didn’t go to the lottery. He said that sometimes a cop would come and he would produce a lottery slip. She said that Mr. Loli forged lottery tickets and she lost work. She said she reviewed his file and there was no recent evidence since March. She said that Mr. Loli never goes to the lottery. She said another issue is with the helper. She said that the individual who testified is lying to the police. She said that Robert works in both the kettle corn stand and with Mr. Loli. She said that when Mr. Loli is gone, Robert, a non-licensed person, completes transactions.
The motion was unanimously approved.
Motion to deny issuance or renewal of the certificate for Mr. Loli: Chew, Shiota.
There was no public comment.
The motion was unanimously approved.
7. Hearing and possible motion to approve standard penalty of two month suspension of certificate for street artist Daniel Hennessy, #8902, for selling items not of his own creation (commercially manufactured Peruvian-style bead and wire jewelry)
Action.
Program Director Lazar explained the history of Mr. Daniel Hennessy’s violation case and presented supporting photos. He said that this is Mr. Hennessy’s first time before the Commissioners and that a 2 month suspension of certificate was recommended.
Mr. Hennessy said that he pleaded no contest and everything that Program Director Lazar said was true. He said he enjoys working and he’s been trying to comply and sell his own items. He said he would like to go back and sell. He said he stopped selling for a month because he thought the suspension had already started in June.
Program Director Lazar clarified the hearing procedure process and the suspension process. He said that Mr. Hennessy could waive his right to his 15 day appeal window if he wanted his suspension to start earlier.
Motion to find Mr. Hennessey in violation: Shiota, Chew.
Public Comment:
Ann Treboux said that Mr. Hennessy has been around for 10 years and has never made any of his jewelry. She said mental illness is a big issue here. She said it’s a don’t ask don’t tell situation with Mr. Hennessy. She said she listened to his screening where a shoeshine guy convinced the Advisory Committee that he made his items. She said that Mr. Hennessy sells all over the place and that this isn’t an isolated incident. She said on her first day back, she sold next to Mr. Hennessy. She said she walked around the side of her stand and Mr. Tunui showed up with a cop and she was charged with trespassing and she still doesn’t know what she did. She said that a 2 month suspension is light because there have been so many complaints about Mr. Hennessy and it took a whistleblower complaint to do something about it.
John Tunui said that that woman testifying against him has 36 restraining orders. He asked the Commissioners to please know who the crazy people are. He talked about the integrity of the program and to let people sell what they make.
The motion was unanimously approved.
Commissioners discussed the length of suspension.
Motion to approve penalty of one (1) month suspension for Mr. Hennessy: Chew, Shiota.
Public Comment:
Ann Treboux said it was sending a message to everyone that if you buy and sell, you’ll only get a month suspension.
The motion was unanimously approved.
8. Public Comment.
Discussion.
Tad Sky explained that there’s a lot of grey area at Justin Herman Plaza. He said that the reason it’s important to have an official lottery is because there’s no disciplinary action taken against an artist who interferes with the ad hoc lottery or lottery committee business. He explained that if it happens Downtown or at the Wharf, Program Director Lazar can send a letter of warning. He read an excerpt from a letter from Program Director Lazar to John Tunui saying that if Justin Herman Plaza was official, then he could send written warnings or suspend permits. He said that since John has retired, it’s up to the new lottery committee to do something. He said recently his wife, who is a lottery committee member, told an artist that they had violated guidelines, but she had no recourse. He said that it didn’t used to matter as much because there was a small group of artists at the Plaza but now it matters because there is such a large group. He said he is pleading for the Arts Commission to make a permanent solution with Rec and Park and make the Plaza official. He said that if the lottery committee is harassed enough, they’ll all quit.
Maria Sky said that she’s part of the Plaza’s lottery committee and that it’s hard to enforce rules and hard to make it work.
Program Director Lazar explained the history of the relationship between Rec and Park and Justin Herman Plaza artists. Commissioner Sklar said this should be fixed and recommended a few solutions.
Claire Cade said she’s a Plaza lottery committee member and that issues come up every day. She said that John ran it very neat and orderly. She said the first 5-6 hours of each day she spends straightening up issues. She said it’s a big sacrifice and as a community service, they need some support, but she finds it highly interesting.
Bill Clark presented the Commissioners with a copy of California Government Code Section 27100.1 dealing with money being held through trust and a copy of a City Attorney opinion. He said that the City Attorney made an opinion that the early years’ street artist fees were not held in trust and over $200,000 in collected fees was spent by the City. He said that the code says the opposite and that money is held in trust for the Arts Commission and that the City cannot use it for its own purposes. He requested a new City Attorney opinion through Program Director Lazar and was told that he wasn’t going to get the information because the opinion was held under attorney-client privilege. He requested that the Arts Commission relinquish attorney-client privilege for this issue.
Mr. Clark also said that, in 1991, Rec and Park passed a new rule that street artists could not sell on its property. He said that that resolution by Rec and Park is an illegal amendment to Prop L. He requested a City Attorney opinion on that matter.
Robert Clark said that this is important because of the problem at Justin Herman Plaza. He asked the Arts Commission to approach Rec and Park and talk to the City Attorney with the claim that Rec-Park’s policy is an illegal amendment to Prop L. He said that the artists should be allowed to have a hearing under Prop L and request that Justin Herman Plaza be a legal area.
Mr. Clark also said that street artists have to get a business tax registration certificate before getting a street artist certificate. He said artists are requested to get a small business tax registration prior to being issued a license. He said that in the SF Business Tax Registration code, it says that a person has 15 days after commencing business to apply for a registration certificate so, he said, it is illegal to require an artist to get the certificate before getting a street artist license. He said that this is important because otherwise the Arts Commission would be denying artists who want to get into the program who don’t have a lot of money to pay for the business license before paying for the street artist certificate. He requested the elimination of the Arts Commission requirement.
Ann Treboux said that she traveled from another state to be here and that she asked for a projector to show photos of Mr. Loli and instead she got a microphone, projector, and amplifier. She said there are more mistakes with her document requests such as releasing personal information. She said in a normal world there would be discipline but that doesn’t happen here. She said she doesn’t know Mr. Tunui and that 3 different superior court judges would get this individual to stop. She said she saw him on a bus on her way to the meeting. She said she doesn’t know about the 36 restraining orders against street artists and that she’s glad to be out of the program.
John Tunui said that he has finished working at the Plaza and would like to thank the Commissioners for everything they do. He said it’s a wonderful program and that they’re doing a great job putting up with the artists. He said he’s going back to New Zealand.
Kathy Hallinan said that she thought the Kate Faust survey would be on the agenda. She said she was invited to the focus group and that there are many complaints that she wants to bring up. She said that 90% of the Wharf and Downtown lottery committee was excluded and that the survey was not translated. She said that she asked for other committee members to be present and Ms. Faust did not allow it. She said that the focus group was handpicked and not recorded. She said that the lack of representation of Wharf and Downtown street artists makes the survey void, and she believes it was conducted improperly. She said she could have helped at no cost to make sure everyone was included and to provide translators. Additionally, she said she was the one person from the Wharf at the focus group. She said that 100% of the questions revolved around a new street artist program designed by the Arts Commission. She said that the majority of Wharf artists she’s spoken to are outraged. She presented a letter to be entered into the record.
Michael Addario stated that John Tunui mimics what Program Director Lazar says. He said the artists pay the Arts Commission $400,000. He said that the program wasn’t started by the Arts Commission; it was started by Bill Clark and Proposition J. He said that Tunui is masquerading as a manager because Justin Herman Plaza is ad hoc. He said Tunui was out of control and did things on his own. He said that the Wharf and Downtown are dying. He said there are people who are drowning and the drowning people push the other people under.
9. New Business and Announcements.
Discussion.
There was no new business.
Public Comment:
Maria Sky asked the Committee to resolve the Lottery issues at Justin Herman Plaza.
Kathy Hallinan said she’s been a street artist for 41 years. She’s proud of the program and for it to last 41 years under bureaucratic management is great. She said she appreciates the program and is always excited about the new things she wants to create and to share her items with the public. She asked the Commissioners to listen to the Clark brothers since they have an idea about Justin Herman Plaza and that there’s some validity about getting money back. She asked the Commissioners to listen to the artists and that many artists have been around a long time and have a lot of good memories to share.
Tad Sky said he would love to hear at the November meeting that the artists are able to sell in the Winter Walk.
Commissioner Sklar announced that the next meeting is November 4 because of a holiday.
10. Adjournment.
Action.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 5:41 p.m.
9/22/15, 10:40 a.m. AV
approved 10/5/15
Respectfully submitted by:
Alyssa Licouris, Street Artists Program Assistant
Minutes approved by:
Howard Lazar, Street Artists Program Director
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