Continued discussion of City Attorney's interpretation of, implementation of, and advice and counsel to clients on compliance with Sunshine Ordinance sections 67.21(i) and 67.24(b)(1)(iii). Discussion of City Attorney's policy on whether such advice should be provided in written and/or oral communications.
DCA Llorente, said that he is representing his office on the matter. He said the City Attorney's Office does not have an expressed or implied policy urging departments to not have written communications. He referred to the February 26, 2007, letter by DCA Paul Zarefsky, and said that the letter does not imply that records shouldn't be disclosed, but on the contrary speaks to records that should be disclosed. He said that some opinions are given orally and some opinions are written. He said that written opinions are available on the department's website.
Member Craven asked DCA Llorente if there is a written or unwritten policy in the City Attorney's Office to provide oral advice with respect to open government laws in lieu of written advice because of the provisions in the Ordinance that opts for disclosure?
In response, Mr. Llorente said there is no policy in the office that says the CA would give oral advice because there are provision or requirements under the Ordinance.
If so, said Member Craven, why is disclosure limited to written advice in the second line of the last paragraph of Section 6 in the Good Government Guide?
DCA Llorente said he does not know how a person would disclose oral advice, which is not in written form and can only be memorialized if put on tape.
What if, said Member Craven, the Task Force asked for the oral advice that the CA had provided to a department representative?
DCA Llorente said he would get back to the Task Force.
Member Craven noted that the Good Government Guide mentioned "writing" twice while the ordinance uses the word "communication."
Member Craven also wanted to know if it was the City Attorney's policy to redact documents discussing an agency's reason for not disclosing information. The reason was because several complainants had said the City Attorney preferred to give advice on open government laws orally because of the requirement to disclose the advice.
DCA Llorente said he would provide the Task Force with an answer.
Member Cauthen said she always makes public record requests and it was always for written information. She wanted to know if a public record is limited to written records and if oral communication is construed as a public record how is it going to be proved that the communication was provided
Member Craven said oral information is public information under Sunshine.67.20 (b).
Public Comment: Allen Grossman requested more time to comment. Chair Chu said that he would only have three minutes. Mr. Grossman read from a letter that he e-mailed earlier and identified three issues:
- Does the City Charter triumph the Sunshine Ordinance?,
- What is the CA's role under 67.21 (i)?, and
- Should the CA's advice always be written?
He said until these issues are resolved he does not see any change in the MO of the City Attorney's Office. He said that there should be a level playing field otherwise the requestor is overwhelmed and can not bring to bear. He said he understands DCA Zarefsky's letter to mean that the City Attorney can help departments in any way under the Ordinance except to appear before the Task Force as an attorney for the official or department.
Continued to the July 22, meeting. Without objection.
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